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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I’m glad to have a place to participate in reasoned discussion about these issues here CK. It sure is a better place to do that than a lot of other U*U places, including some U*U "churches". . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I’m glad to have a place to participate in reasoned discussion about these issues here CK. It sure is a better place to do that than a lot of other U*U places, including some U*U &#8220;churches&#8221;. . .</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/09/12/its-quiet-around-here/#comment-8887</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, thanks for explaining your views about apparitions of the divine.  I disagree with your interpretation of eclipses, but I'm glad to have you participate here in reasoned discussion about these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, thanks for explaining your views about apparitions of the divine.  I disagree with your interpretation of eclipses, but I&#8217;m glad to have you participate here in reasoned discussion about these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
		<link>http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/09/12/its-quiet-around-here/#comment-8886</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:Yes, there are lots of “sign languages” people argue are signs of god. 

True enough but this particular sign of God is amongst the most awe-inspiring "signs in the heavens" that one can ever hope to see. Surely the fact that the total solar eclipse so distinctinctly resembles a gigantic cosmic eye staring down from the sky should give human beings pause to reflect. . .

:The course I’m taking right now in my program is focused on divine hiddenness, which is why I thought the strip so appropriate.

Isn't it somewhat paradoxical then that when the Earth's only moon totally hides the sun that it makes God quite a bit less hidden? 

:The central problem is why, if god exists, s/he doesn’t hit us over the head with that fact. 

Only God can properly answer that question and, in that God clearly does not "hit us over the head " with Her existence (well at least not all of us. . .), it seems unlikely to be answered any time soon. 

:And how we can be held responsible for the knowledge if it isn’t obvious. 

Who is holding us responsible?

:What would count as sufficient evidence for responsibility, and does god have any responsibility (to whom?) to make its being available, if such knowledge would be saving, helpful, etc.

Clearly God bears responsibility for God's own actions or lack thereof. Equally clearly God does not often reveal Herself at times when such knowledge would be saving, helpful, etc. OTOH What level of responsibility do human beings who attempt to suppress such potentially saving and helpful knowledge hold on those rare occasions when God does deign to reveal some saving and helpful knowledge? Needless to say this question is very pertinent to how U*Us have responded to the very significant revelation of God that &lt;a href="http://www.cuups.org/content/publications/spring_97.html#divine" rel="nofollow"&gt;I am claiming&lt;/a&gt; that could be saving and helpful if people responded to it appropriately. . .

:If an eye in the heavens is indeed evidence of god, what does that demonstrate, apart from perhaps omniscience? 

Well, as I have said from the beginning, the &lt;a href="http://www.mreclipse.com/SEphoto/TSE2001/image/T01-04w.JPG" rel="nofollow"&gt;total solar eclipse "Eye of God"&lt;/A&gt; is intended by God to symbolically represent God's attribute of divine omniscience. God's omniscience is a fundamental tenet of all of the world's bona fide monotheistic religions. There is other cosmic religious symbolism displayed during total solar eclipses however, including at least a suggestion of resurrection after death like the &lt;a href="http://www.mreclipse.com/SEphoto/TSE1991/image/TSE91-4cmp1w.JPG" rel="nofollow"&gt;mythical Phoenix bird&lt;/a&gt;.

:What can we infer necessarily about the nature of god? Etc. In my view, not much.

In my well informed view we can infer a great deal about the nature of God by properly interpreting the profound cosmic religious symbolism that is manifested during total solar eclipses. We can also infer a great deal about the nature of God by using reason to rationally interpet what some might call Nature's God and to reasonably interpret God's role in human history. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:Yes, there are lots of “sign languages” people argue are signs of god. </p>
<p>True enough but this particular sign of God is amongst the most awe-inspiring &#8220;signs in the heavens&#8221; that one can ever hope to see. Surely the fact that the total solar eclipse so distinctinctly resembles a gigantic cosmic eye staring down from the sky should give human beings pause to reflect. . .</p>
<p>:The course I’m taking right now in my program is focused on divine hiddenness, which is why I thought the strip so appropriate.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it somewhat paradoxical then that when the Earth&#8217;s only moon totally hides the sun that it makes God quite a bit less hidden? </p>
<p>:The central problem is why, if god exists, s/he doesn’t hit us over the head with that fact. </p>
<p>Only God can properly answer that question and, in that God clearly does not &#8220;hit us over the head &#8221; with Her existence (well at least not all of us. . .), it seems unlikely to be answered any time soon. </p>
<p>:And how we can be held responsible for the knowledge if it isn’t obvious. </p>
<p>Who is holding us responsible?</p>
<p>:What would count as sufficient evidence for responsibility, and does god have any responsibility (to whom?) to make its being available, if such knowledge would be saving, helpful, etc.</p>
<p>Clearly God bears responsibility for God&#8217;s own actions or lack thereof. Equally clearly God does not often reveal Herself at times when such knowledge would be saving, helpful, etc. OTOH What level of responsibility do human beings who attempt to suppress such potentially saving and helpful knowledge hold on those rare occasions when God does deign to reveal some saving and helpful knowledge? Needless to say this question is very pertinent to how U*Us have responded to the very significant revelation of God that <a href="http://www.cuups.org/content/publications/spring_97.html#divine" rel="nofollow">I am claiming</a> that could be saving and helpful if people responded to it appropriately. . .</p>
<p>:If an eye in the heavens is indeed evidence of god, what does that demonstrate, apart from perhaps omniscience? </p>
<p>Well, as I have said from the beginning, the <a href="http://www.mreclipse.com/SEphoto/TSE2001/image/T01-04w.JPG" rel="nofollow">total solar eclipse &#8220;Eye of God&#8221;</a> is intended by God to symbolically represent God&#8217;s attribute of divine omniscience. God&#8217;s omniscience is a fundamental tenet of all of the world&#8217;s bona fide monotheistic religions. There is other cosmic religious symbolism displayed during total solar eclipses however, including at least a suggestion of resurrection after death like the <a href="http://www.mreclipse.com/SEphoto/TSE1991/image/TSE91-4cmp1w.JPG" rel="nofollow">mythical Phoenix bird</a>.</p>
<p>:What can we infer necessarily about the nature of god? Etc. In my view, not much.</p>
<p>In my well informed view we can infer a great deal about the nature of God by properly interpreting the profound cosmic religious symbolism that is manifested during total solar eclipses. We can also infer a great deal about the nature of God by using reason to rationally interpet what some might call Nature&#8217;s God and to reasonably interpret God&#8217;s role in human history. . .</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/09/12/its-quiet-around-here/#comment-8881</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven't heard from you in a while Robin.  I hope you're doing well.  Yes, there are lots of "sign languages" people argue are signs of god.  The course I'm taking right now in my program is focused on divine hiddenness, which is why I thought the strip so appropriate.

The central problem is why, if god exists, s/he doesn't hit us over the head with that fact.  And how we can be held responsible for the knowledge if it isn't obvious.  What would count as sufficient evidence for responsibility, and does god have any responsibility (to whom?) to make its being available, if such knowledge would be saving, helpful, etc.

If an eye in the heavens is indeed evidence of god, what does that demonstrate, apart from perhaps omniscience?  What can we infer necessarily about the nature of god?  Etc.  In my view, not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t heard from you in a while Robin.  I hope you&#8217;re doing well.  Yes, there are lots of &#8220;sign languages&#8221; people argue are signs of god.  The course I&#8217;m taking right now in my program is focused on divine hiddenness, which is why I thought the strip so appropriate.</p>
<p>The central problem is why, if god exists, s/he doesn&#8217;t hit us over the head with that fact.  And how we can be held responsible for the knowledge if it isn&#8217;t obvious.  What would count as sufficient evidence for responsibility, and does god have any responsibility (to whom?) to make its being available, if such knowledge would be saving, helpful, etc.</p>
<p>If an eye in the heavens is indeed evidence of god, what does that demonstrate, apart from perhaps omniscience?  What can we infer necessarily about the nature of god?  Etc.  In my view, not much.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Edgar</title>
		<link>http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/09/12/its-quiet-around-here/#comment-8856</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this silent cosmic &lt;a href="http://touro.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~jkern/Eclipse01/coronalimages/images/Right.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;"sign language"&lt;/A&gt; is God's way of saying, "I see". . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this silent cosmic <a href="http://touro.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~jkern/Eclipse01/coronalimages/images/Right.jpg" rel="nofollow">&#8220;sign language&#8221;</a> is God&#8217;s way of saying, &#8220;I see&#8221;. . .</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/09/12/its-quiet-around-here/#comment-8848</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that's one of my favorite strips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s one of my favorite strips.</p>
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		<title>By: Chalicechick</title>
		<link>http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/09/12/its-quiet-around-here/#comment-8847</link>
		<dc:creator>Chalicechick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT is an awesome quote. 

CC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT is an awesome quote. </p>
<p>CC</p>
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