Comments on: Incompleteness Theorem http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/ Religion and philosophy, in no particular order Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:28:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: ck http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8026 ck Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:42:21 +0000 http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8026 Sorry, "Briefer History of Time" by Stephen Hawking. It's a good overview. Gödel came up when talking about some of the paradoxical consequences of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity concerning time travel. (And yes, that's what I get for taking the epistemology comp without the course... I had it, sort of, with Streeter, but as part of a larger seminar on action, mind and epistemology. Some Quine in philosophy of science, but I'm trying to fill in gaps this summer.) Sorry, “Briefer History of Time” by Stephen Hawking. It’s a good overview. Gödel came up when talking about some of the paradoxical consequences of Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity concerning time travel.

(And yes, that’s what I get for taking the epistemology comp without the course… I had it, sort of, with Streeter, but as part of a larger seminar on action, mind and epistemology. Some Quine in philosophy of science, but I’m trying to fill in gaps this summer.)

]]> By: Dru http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8025 Dru Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:55:15 +0000 http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8025 I had Paul Roth for epistemology, so we were thoroughly drenched in Quine and Epistemology Naturalized (which included the Carnap, Gödel, et al build up to the 'epistemological revolution' as Roth called it). What's BHoT again? I had Paul Roth for epistemology, so we were thoroughly drenched in Quine and Epistemology Naturalized (which included the Carnap, Gödel, et al build up to the ‘epistemological revolution’ as Roth called it).

What’s BHoT again?

]]> By: ck http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8023 ck Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:46:33 +0000 http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8023 Thanks, Dru. Now I see more clearly what you've been getting at in some of your comments. I wonder why this wasn't emphasized more at UMSL. Could just be the courses I took. It's mind-boggling stuff--plus the BHoT that I'm listening to ties my gray matter in knots. (Better than getting knots from the traffic out here though!) Thanks, Dru. Now I see more clearly what you’ve been getting at in some of your comments. I wonder why this wasn’t emphasized more at UMSL. Could just be the courses I took. It’s mind-boggling stuff–plus the BHoT that I’m listening to ties my gray matter in knots. (Better than getting knots from the traffic out here though!)

]]> By: Dru http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8021 Dru Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:17:45 +0000 http://arbitrarymarks.com/wordpress/2007/08/10/incompleteness-theorem/#comment-8021 Quine draws explicitly upon Gödel's critique of Carnap's project. This is where I picked him up and I borrow Quine's synthesis whenever I teach on Logical Positivism because Gödel (I think) ends many discussions about the possibilities of perfected logical systems. I think it just drives us where we were all going in the first place: logic will not get us to the real world. All attempts have failed and even Carnap supposedly gave up. Quine draws explicitly upon Gödel’s critique of Carnap’s project. This is where I picked him up and I borrow Quine’s synthesis whenever I teach on Logical Positivism because Gödel (I think) ends many discussions about the possibilities of perfected logical systems. I think it just drives us where we were all going in the first place: logic will not get us to the real world. All attempts have failed and even Carnap supposedly gave up.

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